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		<title>By: Carole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 08:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People become affiliate marketers because they don&#039;t want to spend the time to research and develop a product, or handle delivery, customer service, refunds and such. And on top of that - products owners are supposed to provide a website that converts, and any and all promotional tools, articles, ebooks, videos, so all they have to do is send an email and split the money? Oh no, even that&#039;s not good enough - they should get 75% or more? Only in IM...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Does anyone else see a problem with this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me? </p>
<p>People become affiliate marketers because they don&#39;t want to spend the time to research and develop a product, or handle delivery, customer service, refunds and such. And on top of that &#8211; products owners are supposed to provide a website that converts, and any and all promotional tools, articles, ebooks, videos, so all they have to do is send an email and split the money? Oh no, even that&#39;s not good enough &#8211; they should get 75% or more? Only in IM&#8230;</p>
<p>Does anyone else see a problem with this?</p>
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		<title>By: Carole</title>
		<link>http://marketersboard.com/lazy-launch-days-numbered/comment-page-2/#comment-4401</link>
		<dc:creator>Carole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 04:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People become affiliate marketers because they don&#039;t want to spend the time to research and develop a product, or handle delivery, customer service, refunds and such. And on top of that - products owners are supposed to provide a website that converts, and any and all promotional tools, articles, ebooks, videos, so all they have to do is send an email and split the money? Oh no, even that&#039;s not good enough - they should get 75% or more? Only in IM...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Does anyone else see a problem with this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me? </p>
<p>People become affiliate marketers because they don&#39;t want to spend the time to research and develop a product, or handle delivery, customer service, refunds and such. And on top of that &#8211; products owners are supposed to provide a website that converts, and any and all promotional tools, articles, ebooks, videos, so all they have to do is send an email and split the money? Oh no, even that&#39;s not good enough &#8211; they should get 75% or more? Only in IM&#8230;</p>
<p>Does anyone else see a problem with this?</p>
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		<title>By: 6 Ways For Product Owners To Keep Affiliates Happy &#124; Kikabink News - Internet Marketing News</title>
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		<dc:creator>6 Ways For Product Owners To Keep Affiliates Happy &#124; Kikabink News - Internet Marketing News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Justin Brooke, &#8220;Lazy Launch Days Are Numbered,&#8221; Marketersboard, June 17, 2009    Share and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: GoAskLesley</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoAskLesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lazy Launch Days Are Numbered.. &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/4ljG5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/4ljG5&lt;/a&gt;
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		<title>By: GoAskLesley</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoAskLesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lazy Launch Days Are Numbered.. &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/4ljG5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/4ljG5&lt;/a&gt;
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		<title>By: Justin Brooke</title>
		<link>http://marketersboard.com/lazy-launch-days-numbered/comment-page-2/#comment-4372</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-4324&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@James Schramko&lt;/a&gt; - We&#039;re discussing ways to improve whats currently happening. The whole bonus war is scenario is a becoming a big issue. For exactly the reason Anna brings up from my post.... Why not just sell my bonus that I was going to offer for your product and then I don&#039;t have to share my buyers with you.

It&#039;s easy to say &quot;toughen up and offer a better bonus, it&#039;s all part of the game&quot; but that&#039;s really just sweeping the problem under the rug. Eventually other product owners will change their ways and anyone who hasn&#039;t will slowly start to lose partners.

and if all affiliates changed their model to just being product owners, selling their own products... we as product owners would lose all our affiliates. Sure we&#039;re smart enough to drive our own traffic but I&#039;d sure like to keep the leveraging power of having affiliates drive all my traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-4324' rel="nofollow">@James Schramko</a> &#8211; We&#8217;re discussing ways to improve whats currently happening. The whole bonus war is scenario is a becoming a big issue. For exactly the reason Anna brings up from my post&#8230;. Why not just sell my bonus that I was going to offer for your product and then I don&#8217;t have to share my buyers with you.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to say &#8220;toughen up and offer a better bonus, it&#8217;s all part of the game&#8221; but that&#8217;s really just sweeping the problem under the rug. Eventually other product owners will change their ways and anyone who hasn&#8217;t will slowly start to lose partners.</p>
<p>and if all affiliates changed their model to just being product owners, selling their own products&#8230; we as product owners would lose all our affiliates. Sure we&#8217;re smart enough to drive our own traffic but I&#8217;d sure like to keep the leveraging power of having affiliates drive all my traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Brooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-4324&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@James Schramko&lt;/a&gt; - We&#039;re discussing ways to improve whats currently happening. The whole bonus war is scenario is a becoming a big issue. For exactly the reason Anna brings up from my post.... Why not just sell my bonus that I was going to offer for your product and then I don&#039;t have to share my buyers with you.

It&#039;s easy to say &quot;toughen up and offer a better bonus, it&#039;s all part of the game&quot; but that&#039;s really just sweeping the problem under the rug. Eventually other product owners will change their ways and anyone who hasn&#039;t will slowly start to lose partners.

and if all affiliates changed their model to just being product owners, selling their own products... we as product owners would lose all our affiliates. Sure we&#039;re smart enough to drive our own traffic but I&#039;d sure like to keep the leveraging power of having affiliates drive all my traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-4324" rel="nofollow">@James Schramko</a> &#8211; We&#8217;re discussing ways to improve whats currently happening. The whole bonus war is scenario is a becoming a big issue. For exactly the reason Anna brings up from my post&#8230;. Why not just sell my bonus that I was going to offer for your product and then I don&#8217;t have to share my buyers with you.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to say &#8220;toughen up and offer a better bonus, it&#8217;s all part of the game&#8221; but that&#8217;s really just sweeping the problem under the rug. Eventually other product owners will change their ways and anyone who hasn&#8217;t will slowly start to lose partners.</p>
<p>and if all affiliates changed their model to just being product owners, selling their own products&#8230; we as product owners would lose all our affiliates. Sure we&#8217;re smart enough to drive our own traffic but I&#8217;d sure like to keep the leveraging power of having affiliates drive all my traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW, touchy subject :)

Just my two cents...

Are your products really worth much if you give them away on every launch?

This is a terrible cycle because product owners have to charge more to get the affiliates to offer sweet bonuses. Don&#039;t believe for a second that you aren&#039;t somehow paying for that bonus.

I buy your product this lauch then next launch you give your product away as a bonus! Why did I even pay?

I agree with Trish, Stomper does it right &quot;most of the time&quot;

One of the biggest and most insidious problems is thier hurting (and targeting) mostly newbies

There is affiliate incest going on too (remember the big guru video explaining how to clear your cookies in great detail) why should I even bother trying to promote you with that kind of #$%&amp; going on

Lastly but not leastly, (made that last word up), YOU DON&quot;T NEED HALF THIS CRAP!

P.S. What ever happened to building &quot;quality websites?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW, touchy subject <img src='http://marketersboard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Just my two cents&#8230;</p>
<p>Are your products really worth much if you give them away on every launch?</p>
<p>This is a terrible cycle because product owners have to charge more to get the affiliates to offer sweet bonuses. Don&#8217;t believe for a second that you aren&#8217;t somehow paying for that bonus.</p>
<p>I buy your product this lauch then next launch you give your product away as a bonus! Why did I even pay?</p>
<p>I agree with Trish, Stomper does it right &#8220;most of the time&#8221;</p>
<p>One of the biggest and most insidious problems is thier hurting (and targeting) mostly newbies</p>
<p>There is affiliate incest going on too (remember the big guru video explaining how to clear your cookies in great detail) why should I even bother trying to promote you with that kind of #$%&amp; going on</p>
<p>Lastly but not leastly, (made that last word up), YOU DON&#8221;T NEED HALF THIS CRAP!</p>
<p>P.S. What ever happened to building &#8220;quality websites?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph B.</title>
		<link>http://marketersboard.com/lazy-launch-days-numbered/comment-page-2/#comment-4846</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW, touchy subject :)

Just my two cents...

Are your products really worth much if you give them away on every launch?

This is a terrible cycle because product owners have to charge more to get the affiliates to offer sweet bonuses. Don&#039;t believe for a second that you aren&#039;t somehow paying for that bonus.

I buy your product this lauch then next launch you give your product away as a bonus! Why did I even pay?

I agree with Trish, Stomper does it right &quot;most of the time&quot;

One of the biggest and most insidious problems is thier hurting (and targeting) mostly newbies

There is affiliate incest going on too (remember the big guru video explaining how to clear your cookies in great detail) why should I even bother trying to promote you with that kind of #$%&amp; going on

Lastly but not leastly, (made that last word up), YOU DON&quot;T NEED HALF THIS CRAP!

P.S. What ever happened to building &quot;quality websites?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW, touchy subject <img src='http://marketersboard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Just my two cents&#8230;</p>
<p>Are your products really worth much if you give them away on every launch?</p>
<p>This is a terrible cycle because product owners have to charge more to get the affiliates to offer sweet bonuses. Don&#8217;t believe for a second that you aren&#8217;t somehow paying for that bonus.</p>
<p>I buy your product this lauch then next launch you give your product away as a bonus! Why did I even pay?</p>
<p>I agree with Trish, Stomper does it right &#8220;most of the time&#8221;</p>
<p>One of the biggest and most insidious problems is thier hurting (and targeting) mostly newbies</p>
<p>There is affiliate incest going on too (remember the big guru video explaining how to clear your cookies in great detail) why should I even bother trying to promote you with that kind of #$%&amp; going on</p>
<p>Lastly but not leastly, (made that last word up), YOU DON&#8221;T NEED HALF THIS CRAP!</p>
<p>P.S. What ever happened to building &#8220;quality websites?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-4324&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@James&lt;/a&gt; - I think you&#039;re right.  Pete really should make a bonus if everyone else is ... but then that takes us back around to the &quot;why not just sell the bonus&quot; question.  

Maybe a different bonus with every launch, which was never sold formerly, but never repeated again for free?  Of course that&#039;s a lot of work so the person would have to have a big following to make it worthwhile.  But at least that would avoid some of the other potential problems which are mentioned in this post and comments.

Affiliates wouldn&#039;t be promoting a paid product, only to have it be given away later as a bonus.  And people wouldn&#039;t avoid buying something &quot;in case in becomes a bonus later&quot; if it were offered free only once and after that it were for sale.

Just means people will have to come up with a lot of great ideas for products, which gets tricky when so many people are in info-overload as it is.  Get&#039;s interesting at least!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-4324' rel="nofollow">@James</a> &#8211; I think you&#8217;re right.  Pete really should make a bonus if everyone else is &#8230; but then that takes us back around to the &#8220;why not just sell the bonus&#8221; question.  </p>
<p>Maybe a different bonus with every launch, which was never sold formerly, but never repeated again for free?  Of course that&#8217;s a lot of work so the person would have to have a big following to make it worthwhile.  But at least that would avoid some of the other potential problems which are mentioned in this post and comments.</p>
<p>Affiliates wouldn&#8217;t be promoting a paid product, only to have it be given away later as a bonus.  And people wouldn&#8217;t avoid buying something &#8220;in case in becomes a bonus later&#8221; if it were offered free only once and after that it were for sale.</p>
<p>Just means people will have to come up with a lot of great ideas for products, which gets tricky when so many people are in info-overload as it is.  Get&#8217;s interesting at least!</p>
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